Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition.

Veers Belvar

PvP Expert

thank you...veers is not anyone that people should fear.

EDIT: ever.

They have failed vis a vis mission and incursion runners. No permit and still no danger. This should be emphasized at every opportunity.

Multiple failed contests and attemps, etc... they certainly do care

It is you who are mistaken, sir. Code has interpreted their charter to require permits from all who operate in highsec. They claim that incursion runners go afk between sites. They simply dont have the class to enforce their own code against more competent players.

http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/the-accusation.html

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607

just for starters....

to make...sorry working long hours and wrote this on my phone on the train....I will expand further.

War in Eve is not similar to a RL war. When Germany invades Poland in September 1939, victory conditions are clearly set. Either Germany will conquer Poland and turn it into a vassal state, or Poland will successfully resist the invasion.

War in Eve is fundamentally different. Dying is of little consequence, there is certainly no negative infinity utility as in real life. All material losses can easily be replaced, and simply docking up and playing on alts is a perfectly viable and consequence free approach. Conquering territory is impossible in highsec, and of little consequence in nullsec. Ditto for killboard statistics.

To wit, wars between code and elite pve players are not decided by killboard statistics. Code is trying to make highsec pve unprofitable to the point where players are forced to move to low/null, while the pve players simply want to continue making isk with minimal exposure to pvp. Victory here will depend on the efficacy of code in making highsec substantially riskier for pve. Killboards and damage are irrelevant, its all about making an impact on broad highsec pve play.

Here code has failed spectacularly...missioning and inucrsioning are as lucrative as ever. Mining has been minimally impacted. And even with a bunch of hauler kills, goods are still broadly declining in price. PvE play is just as easy and profitable as ever, and code keeps on losing day in and day out. No trillion isk of damages can ever change that fact.